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Post by Amanda on Mar 3, 2007 15:09:49 GMT -5
So, this might be considered a spoiler-ish thread. Of course, we don't know anything about whether these speculations are true or not, but if you don't want to sort of try and figure things out, it's probably best not to continue reading. That's that. Okay, basically I've been thinking about the trailers and clips we've seen online so far (as well as the photographs, of course). I've been thinking about them a lot. And I was wondering how I could piece things together and see if I could figure out what was going on. My musings are probably all incorrect and horrible, but... I mean, we've got to do something to kill the time, right? So here's what I've gotten so far: In the newest (I think) UK trailer that's been released, Trey says something to the effect of changing the trajectory and going "right to it." What are they talking about going to? We know that there's some sort of distress signal that's been heard, and there was a transmission, as mentioned by Harvey (right?) and that's when Cassie asks if there's life out there. So are they hearing the transmission--the distress signal--from the Icarus I? And then that's what they're changing the path to hit? And then there's that one SPOILER! image of Mace and the crispy people who I think we all assume is the crew from the Icarus I. So did they get to it and then go exploring? --Now what about that clip that's on SunshineDNA? Where Trey says something that sounds an awful lot like, "I f**ked up!" What did he mess up? Was it that he said they could get to the Icarus I--and then the scary ensued? And the rest of the crew was sort of blaming it on him? Okay, I'm done. I've just been piecing things together in my mind and thought it was an interesting theory. Has anyone else been doing thinking like that or come up with their own theories?
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Post by lindsey on Mar 4, 2007 16:52:43 GMT -5
I *do* think that the "transmission" that they picked up was clearly from the Icarus I. My only curiosity concerning that is as to what the transmission says (if anything--maybe it's just a signal) and how long it's been running for. If the transmission actually does have some sort of message to it, it'd probably better be good enough to want to make the crew want to head toward it. Why go to trouble otherwise, right? Clearly they didn't end up too well off.
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 16:55:46 GMT -5
But there's apparently one "guy" still... marginally... alive-ish? Right? From the trailers and things it looks like the "person" in question is sort of... burnt, kind of. D'you know what I mean? So if this "burnt guy" (THE EVIL PINBACKER?!) is functional enough to be slashing at Capa and whatnot, wouldn't he be able to send out a coherent distress message?
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Post by brittany on Mar 4, 2007 17:13:22 GMT -5
I wanted to make a thread like this! Good thinking, Amanda. Anywho, here are my speculations of a possible scene in the movie... Based on the screencaps from the SFO Gallery, I've came up with this idea: Cassie finds Trey behind some glass and notices his bad condition. She ends up breaking the glass and moves back to see that he is going through some 'alien-ish' symptoms.... *poor Trey * There's pictures that can somewhat confirm this... but I could be wrong.
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 17:17:34 GMT -5
Hey! Yeah! I know exactly how you're getting that idea. That's a great one, Brittany! Gah, I can't wait to see if any of our ideas are right.
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Post by lindsey on Mar 4, 2007 17:18:20 GMT -5
So if this "burnt guy" (THE EVIL PINBACKER?!) is functional enough to be slashing at Capa and whatnot, wouldn't he be able to send out a coherent distress message?
Unless someone else sent out a distress message before he went all crazy and scary. This is, of course, assuming Pinbacker is aformentioned "burnt guy." Hell, maybe Pinbacker is the guy who was trying to warn there asses about Burnt Dude! Maybe Burnt Dude is actually ONE OF THE ICARUS II CREW.
Yeah, I sincerely doubt that. But hey; it's a Danny Boyle movie. You really can't make too many assumptions.
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Post by chero on Mar 4, 2007 17:22:50 GMT -5
I have a feeling someone (I think Trey) drowns. In one of the trailers in the SFO gallery, you can briefly see someone in blue (which could mean glass or water). Since we know that Mace gets in very cold water, perhaps he was trying to save someone?
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 17:26:35 GMT -5
I have a feeling someone (I think Trey) drowns. In one of the trailers in the SFO gallery, you can briefly see someone in blue (which could mean glass or water). Since we know that Mace gets in very cold water, perhaps he was trying to save someone? REALLY? I didn't see that! I saw Mace in the water, but that's all I saw regarding that... In the new international trailer we see Capa with some sort of virtual reality kind of model of the Icarus II. Is that actually a little VR section on the ship and how Mace (with the 'stache and hair!) is seeing the waves crashing in front of him with that cool shot and everyone ducking down?
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Post by thisisliz on Mar 4, 2007 17:42:03 GMT -5
Just thought I'd throw these things out there:
We know scary-burnt guy (probably Pinbacker--but good point about it maybe being an Icarus II crew member) is trouble, but what bothers me is why? Why does he apparently want to kill everyone on Icarus II and ruin their mission? Has he seen something that tells him that the sun should die?
Also, I thought the most interesting part of the new UK trailer was when Corazon was talking about there not being enough oxygen and saying that they "need to lose 2 more." Do they start killing each other off? Deciding who is necessary to the mission and getting rid of the excess? I think that right there is an awesome premise for a movie--talk about a dog eat dog world!!
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 17:49:04 GMT -5
I think that's exactly what it is-- on both points!
Since a lot of the film we know is going to be science vs. religion, maybe Pinbacker (why don't we all just assume it's him, yeah? just for the sake of keeping this thread easier to understand?) saw "God," and God told him that it was time for the sun to die or something along those lines?
--and I definitely think they start killing each other off, which is freaking incredible! There was that whole fight thing with Mace and Capa, too--! (Capa was looking pretty dominant from that trailer clip!) So, yeah, I think they probably do end up killing each other off.
In order of how necessary each crew member seems to be, who do we think will be the "final four" left?! I've got my vote on Capa (he knows how to use the bomb, after all), Cassie (pilot!), Mace (in case things break down) and Corazon (because they probably could use all the help in the biology department they can get). Plus, in both clips where they're discussing the "four" crew members or "losing" two members, Capa and Mace are shown. Cassie is shown in one (isn't she?) and Corazon is standing with the other two in the new trailer!
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Post by lindsey on Mar 4, 2007 17:55:37 GMT -5
Why does he apparently want to kill everyone on Icarus II and ruin their mission? Has he seen something that tells him that the sun should die?
Perhaps in order to survive so long, he's mutated? I'm assuming that it's possible that, if not all the rest of the crew on the Icarus I burned up, it's pretty probable that he would have had to eat any of the other crew members in order to stay alive. He would have needed SOME sort of nutrition in order to stay alive for so long--and maybe he hasn't even been alone for that long.
I think it's safe to assume that, with all he probably had to go through, he would be likely to go insane. If it's like a mirroring tactic with the Icarus II--where people are killing each other to survive--then it seems possible to me that something pretty similar happened the first time around, and that seems like the type of thing that would pretty much make you take a trip around the crazy bend; along with everything else they would have had to suffer going through the mission.
This is me still assuming Pinbacker is a member of the first crew--which I'm still not 100% sure I believe or not.
I agree with Amanda, though, that the "final four" are probably going to be Mace, Capa, Cassie and Corazon. While it's possible that maybe they're misleading us in the trailer; it seems likely and logical. The thing I'm looking forward to seeing is how those four decide to come to kill people they've lived with and probably bonded with over time, and HOW they go about doing it.
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 18:54:34 GMT -5
Oh, he's totally crazy-- so maybe that's why he's all killing people and whatever. Maybe he's just not realized that he doesn't have to kill other people for survival... Except that he really would, considering how we heard that even five of them couldn't survive (and assuming he's onboard Icarus II during that part) long enough.
I'm pretty excited to see where it all goes, though...
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Post by chero on Mar 4, 2007 20:02:11 GMT -5
After seeing the new trailers, I think Capa will kill Mace, Capa will then kill himself, and Cassie and Corazon will fail due to the "unknown."
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Post by Amanda on Mar 4, 2007 20:13:44 GMT -5
You think Capa will kill himself?
I don't think so. I think Capa is way too practical for that. I think if I were Capa I would think, "Well, that's useless."
...then again, I'm sure a mission like this one could make you do some odd things...
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Post by chero on Mar 4, 2007 20:20:09 GMT -5
Capa won't physically kill himself. He will willingly sacrifice himself for the greater good via watching the bomb go off in front of him.
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