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Post by sunshinedna on Mar 26, 2007 14:54:23 GMT -5
The characters' backstories are up on Sunshine... Enjoy...
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Post by chero on Mar 26, 2007 15:19:06 GMT -5
You guys should DEFINITELY read those! They help you so much as you're watching the film. I didn't have the pleasure of knowing all of this before I watched Sunshine the first time so it wasn't as comprehendable compared to my second viewing. It really helps you understand the characters.
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Post by Amanda on Mar 26, 2007 17:17:25 GMT -5
YES!
Mwaha, Myspace ammo!
Wait, wait-- In Corazon's it says "She worked in the Pan-Asian Space program, but, like Corazon and Kaneda, was drafted into the US program to work on the Icarus project." I reckon just take out that "Corazon and" bit? Or switch it with Trey?
I love what her final message was, though...
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Post by thisisliz on Mar 26, 2007 18:07:23 GMT -5
Those were great. I want to know what the rest of them dream about, though!
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Post by kagerou on Mar 26, 2007 19:06:43 GMT -5
Now, not having had the oh- so-envied privilege of being able to see the movie, I'll comment. But of course, I suppose there's no need, since most of the people who would comment back have seen it, and can just snicker at me for being wrong. It's too bad emotions don't travel so well over the Internet."Capa is better than Kaneda at chess, and so he always lets Kaneda play white. Capa sometimes lets Kaneda win."So cute. ;D I would have said it's possible that "Harvey earned his rank on the Icarus II mission partly by hard work and all-round abilities. He is a fine engineer, and would be able to perform most of Mace, Trey, and Cassie’s duties at an equal level."could insinuate that those three are not necessarily needed for the return mission, and instead of them it would be him. But then I read "He also scored extremely highly on psych tests, as a dependable and stable member of the crew. However, in the psych tests, he managed to disguise (and they failed to detect) his Achilles heel…which is his attachment to his wife. Simply, he misses her. He dreams of her every night. He is terrified by the idea that he will not survive the mission, and never see her again."so maybe not. Because of course, those who want to survive that badly don't get it in "survival" films. "He is unsentimental. He doesn’t like Capa, but he immediately xxxxspoilerxxxx, because he knows Capa is more central to the mission’s success. He is morally uncomplicated. If xxxxspoilerxxxx is what is required to complete the mission, he’ll support the action, and do the job himself."I know it doesn't mean what I'm thinking, obviously, but it's fun to pretend. Well, now that we have been informed of that, I guess I need to remake that quiz...
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Post by Starry_MelC on Mar 26, 2007 19:41:54 GMT -5
Massie indeed! I like this part best....
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Post by sunshinedna on Mar 27, 2007 4:35:40 GMT -5
They are, indeed, brilliant. I forgot the Massie bit!!
I have always known these backstories and so can see the real characters when I watch the film. I can even see these characters in the Mercury clip.
Searle's expression is obvious in the Mercury clip.
Mace looks at Mercury in a very 'practical' way. Mercury is just there.
Capa looks at Mercury in a fairly detached way. Interested because, well, it's Mercury, but he's not overcome with any kind of emotion...
Note that Harvey is the only one who doesn't look at Mercury. It's like he doesn't want to be there and wants to be home. With his wife.
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Post by surfergirl on Mar 27, 2007 6:16:09 GMT -5
That is interesting about the Massie thing. Is that ever expressed in any other way in the film besides dreams?
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Post by Starry_MelC on Mar 27, 2007 9:49:16 GMT -5
Note that Harvey is the only one who doesn't look at Mercury. It's like he doesn't want to be there and wants to be home. With his wife. ya... I've always thought one of the crew members are going to miss home a lot.. Oh and are we able to watch all 8 crew members recording their last message in the movie?
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Post by sunshinedna on Mar 27, 2007 12:06:14 GMT -5
Surfergirl, I won't talk *directly* about things in the film, but let's just say that now 'Massie' will be completely and utterly obvious when you see it. MelC... you'll have to wait and see ;D
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Post by thisisliz on Mar 27, 2007 14:09:37 GMT -5
Ok, so I went back and re-read the background stories and the wording of this, uh, caught my attention.
"However, four months before the mission left Earth Orbit, Cassie became pregnant. The identity of the father was known only to her: he was never aware that Cassie was briefly carrying his child."
If it's before they "left Earth Orbit" does that mean they're already in space? As in it's just the 8 of them, and one of the 6 men on Icarus II is the father?(!!!) Or were there more people involved at this stage? Or am I just over-reading the wording here and they were actually still on earth? Because later, in Searle's it's said that they were still in "preparations."
So yeah.....speculations and/or clarifications, anyone?
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Post by surfergirl on Mar 27, 2007 15:49:02 GMT -5
Thanks for answering my question
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Post by chero on Mar 27, 2007 17:27:04 GMT -5
If it's before they "left Earth Orbit" does that mean they're already in space? I interpret that as they are still on Earth, making final preparations for the space flight. If they haven't left Earth Orbit, how could they be in space? That's my spec. Hmm, now that I'm thinking about it, it could be that the spaceship is still within the gravitational orbit around the Earth. Hmmm....
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Post by Starry_MelC on Mar 27, 2007 18:54:36 GMT -5
MelC... you'll have to wait and see ;D awww... that's 15 days and counting! :*0
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Post by Amanda on Mar 27, 2007 19:44:26 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it means that it was before they left Earth...
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