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Post by massiefan on Mar 13, 2008 8:13:06 GMT -5
Yeah...your stuff's great. I tried to write Massie stuff again last night and I just CAN'T. It's like wearing a dress or being in a dark room full of people - I can't do it. Not cause I don't want to write about them (whereas I definitely don't want to wear a dress or be in a dark room full of people), it's that I suck at pairings. The only fandom I've ever been told I write well is Aliens, probably because I am the master of the 'I really hate you sometimes but we flirt anyway and my God don't we have the greatest sexual tension EVAR?!' relationship (read: Hudson and Vasquez). If I could write Massie, I totally would. Maybe I just need some inspiration...?
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Post by kaliszewski on Mar 13, 2008 10:01:14 GMT -5
... thanks again, Massiefan. (Gonna blush now. You know how that goes: you come off as a complete monster and a troll, and then someone says something nice to you, and, well.... gonna blush now.)
Struck me when you mentioned pairings. Another random tip from the musty attic that is my head:
BANTER 101, or The Primeval Movie Connection
About a hundred and twenty percent of what ability I have to write dialogue comes-- honestly-- from watching old movies. I mean OLD movies. Pretty much pre-1950 on back. Back then, before men and women had carte blanche to rip each other's clothes off onscreen, they had to TALK to each other. (In pre-Production Code times, they could even get pretty suggestive. And even during the dismal Code years, that suggestiveness regularly disguised itself as innuendo and got past the censors just as handily.)
So, if a movie like The Philadelphia Story, The Big Sleep, All About Eve, or Private Lives should happen your way, give it a listen as well as a look. Very often, rhythms of dialogue can lead straight to chemistry. And those old-school screenwriters really knew their stuff.
*****
I'm wrestling with a story of my own right now, actually. Can't quite catch a hook to get it started. It's going to be very strange and very sad, and the structure's gonna be all knotted up. Sort of the Sunshine version of The Sound and the Fury as filtered through David Twohy's Below....
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Post by brittany on Mar 13, 2008 15:58:14 GMT -5
So my dislike of Garland runs far, far deeper than Capa not bonking Cassie, or the actors not writing their own character bios. From what I've seen of his writing, I don't like his attitude toward characters in general. I'm sad you feel this way, kali. Chero and I have a copy of an early draft of the SUNSHINE script and I'm glad he didn't go with the "Oxygen Garden experience." He DID include it and it was horribly wrong. Cassie and Capa had no feelings in it. It was only a "creature comfort" thing. Not romantic at all. By allowing the viewers to make what they want out of what he provided, it makes the whole cinematic experience unique (or sadly stressful on your part  ). Regardless, you can make it your own.... How? With fanfiction like Chero happily stated.  As we have seen in the Voting Scene, sometimes things are just better left unsaid. That's my opinion. |
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Post by kaliszewski on Mar 13, 2008 18:44:42 GMT -5
One good thing came out of my not seeing eye-to-eye with Garland: North Sea, which I wrote when it was rumored early on that he was going to be writing 28 Weeks Later. "Holy hell," I said, "he's gonna polish off Selena, Hannah, and what's left of Jim. I gotta get those kids outta there--!" Exercise a bit of protective custody for my own mental health, as it were. Because when I see his name attached to a project now, I think People are gonna DIE. Why? JUST BECAUSE.What you say about the Oxygen Garden scene: that's very sad, but it does support what I said up above. I think he has a certain degree of contempt for his characters (and, by extension, then, possibly subconsciously, his audience [What's our first and primary task as writers of fiction, Alex? To entertain our audience, of course. With "to enlighten" and "to educate" acting as secondary-- and/or fortuitous-- counterparts to that goal.]), and he's either deeply uncomfortable writing intimacy or he perceives the need for it as yet another human shortcoming: intimacy functioning not as a source of shared comfort, warmth, or strength, but as nothing more than mechanical animal release. ( Okay, I'll slap in a sex scene-- but it's gonna be ugly and pointless. See? Told you.) Which is-- yeah, I know-- an attitude we see reflected in many more scripts than just his, but still: Why can't writers recognize this? Especially writers working on indie projects, who enjoy more room to be creative than their script-by-committee mainstream counterparts...? I've been scratching around for early versions of this script for months, on and off. I'd be curious to see this draft-- and yet I wouldn't, if you catch my drift.... Okay. I'm sorry. Think I've pulled this thread far enough off-course. See ya back in the RPG.... |
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Post by massiefan on May 8, 2008 6:19:35 GMT -5
Hey guys! Sorry there hasn't been much going on of late in this thread, but I thought I would note that whilst hunting for some Crossfade mp3s, I stumbled across this particular song.
Check out the lyrics. Is this Massie or what?
CROSSFADE - INVINCIBLE
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I memorized all the words for you
But if you only knew
How much that's just not like me
I wait up late every night
Just to hear your voice
But you don't know that's nothing like me
You know I wonder how you already figured out
All these things that I try to hide
All this time i've been hoping you don't find out
All these things that I hide on the inside
I can't be held responsible
This is all so new to me
Just when I think I'm invincible
You come and happen to me
I want to make sure everything is perfect for you
If you only knew
That's not like me to follow through
Maybe even give up all these dead end dreams
Just to be with you
But you don't know that's nothing like me
Hey yeah I wonder how you already figured out
All these things that I try to hide
All this time i've been hoping you don't find out
All these things that I hide on the inside
I can't be held responsible
This is all so new to me
Just when I think I'm invincible
You come and happen to me
Now I'm waking up
I've finally had enough of this wreck of a lifetime
I never thought I'd survive it
Now I'm taking back
All I gave up for that
Leave my pain behind
Wash these stains from my life
Just when I thought all was lost
You came and made it all okay
I can't be held responsible
This is all so new to me
Just when I think I'm invincible
You come and happen to me
I can't be held responsible
This is all so new to me
Just when I think I'm invincible
You come and happen to me
I memorized all the words for you
If you only knew
How much that's just not like me
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Post by massiefan on May 11, 2008 18:30:51 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post, but I just finished working on a Massie wallpaper. I've made four different coloured versions that can be found in the Fanart section, up for download.
If anyone wants to put them up in the Gallery for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by chero on May 11, 2008 22:12:57 GMT -5
Why are you sorry? You didn't double post within the same hour. You're fine. You always are, massiefan.  |
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Post by massiefan on May 11, 2008 22:39:54 GMT -5
Hehe, cheers for that, Chero. Although it does depend on one's definition of fine...*wink wink nudge nudge*
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Post by chero on May 17, 2008 16:45:24 GMT -5
Fine doesn't even cut it, Massiefan!  *wink wink nudge nudge* Oh, and that mechanic of yours is alright, too. Hehe!  |
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Post by caseycolin on Aug 17, 2010 5:47:19 GMT -5
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). Regardless, you can make it your own.... How? With fanfiction like Chero happily stated. 
*wink wink nudge nudge*